Curse

SpyderArachnid · Dec 21, 2010, 11:47 PM // 23:47

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Originally Posted by Aycee

The drunken level does but the Title Track Tier does not.

Ahh yes, my mistake. For some reason thought it was the title. Wasn't thinking clearly.

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Originally Posted by Aycee

What about the Hero track? or Gladiator? or Champion? All of which are singular, should you be forced to do so much work on one character for the title? If you complete titles on different characters why should it be that you don't get the credit for finishing one off just because it was done on a different character?

You do get the credit for finishing them off. You get a title on the character who worked for it. You are proving that you are a Gladiator/Champion/etc on that character. They did the work and became a Champion. Why should someone else get to display their title when they didn't do the work for it? If that was the case, then every single title in the game should be account wide, so you can wear it no matter who worked for it.

Aycee · Dec 22, 2010, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

Ahh yes, my mistake. For some reason thought it was the title. Wasn't thinking clearly.

Had a feeling that was it

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

You do get the credit for finishing them off. You get a title on the character who worked for it. You are proving that you are a Gladiator/Champion/etc on that character. They did the work and became a Champion. Why should someone else get to display their title when they didn't do the work for it? If that was the case, then every single title in the game should be account wide, so you can wear it no matter who worked for it.

I would actually agree with the sarcasm(? not sure what to call it) for all account wide titles, if not for PvE skills. I mean you as a person actually DID do all the work to earn that title, I find it wrong that you don't get the ability to show what you've accomplished just because you want to play on your mesmer or your necro.

But unfortunately we do have PvE skills, which is why I only signed for the Maxed Titles track to be acount wide.

Just Sai · Dec 22, 2010, 12:41 AM // 00:41

/unsigned

massive gank for everyone who worked for it the proper way

Bellatrixa · Dec 22, 2010, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by Just Sai

/unsigned

massive gank for everyone who worked for it the proper way

Ok, so what about those who earned Lucky/Unlucky/Treasure Hunter before it was made account wide?

[email protected] sry

Aycee · Dec 22, 2010, 12:56 AM // 00:56

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Originally Posted by Just Sai

/unsigned

massive gank for everyone who worked for it the proper way

I worked for them the proper way, and I have no problem with it changing.

SpyderArachnid · Dec 22, 2010, 03:25 AM // 03:25

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Originally Posted by Aycee

I would actually agree with the sarcasm(? not sure what to call it) for all account wide titles, if not for PvE skills. I mean you as a person actually DID do all the work to earn that title, I find it wrong that you don't get the ability to show what you've accomplished just because you want to play on your mesmer or your necro.

But unfortunately we do have PvE skills, which is why I only signed for the Maxed Titles track to be acount wide.

My reasoning is because probably I'm a PvE player who gets involved in my characters. I don't know if others do it, or if I'm the only one.

Basically, I see my characters are different people. I don't play the game as just myself, I play a different experience on each character I play. They all have their unique personalities and such. So when one works hard on something, I believe that person should be rewarded. Not my other characters, as they didn't do anything to achieve that title.

I don't see it as "it is all me anyways, it doesn't matter who I play on". I see it as "they are each their own individual. They earn their own things". Might be the RPer in me from playing too much D&D back in the day, but that is why I believe the titles shouldn't be account wide. If one of my characters works to be a town drunk, my other characters shouldn't be able to walk around pretending to be the town drunk as well. They didn't earn it, so they don't deserve it.

That may just be me though.

Aycee · Dec 22, 2010, 03:30 AM // 03:30

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

My reasoning..... That may just be me though.

xD Just a difference in game-play mentality then. But I'm sure there are many gamers who RP, or semi-rp in some cases, that play.

Bellatrixa · Dec 22, 2010, 09:17 AM // 09:17

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

My reasoning is because probably I'm a PvE player who gets involved in my characters. I don't know if others do it, or if I'm the only one.

Basically, I see my characters are different people. I don't play the game as just myself, I play a different experience on each character I play. They all have their unique personalities and such. So when one works hard on something, I believe that person should be rewarded. Not my other characters, as they didn't do anything to achieve that title.

I don't see it as "it is all me anyways, it doesn't matter who I play on". I see it as "they are each their own individual. They earn their own things". Might be the RPer in me from playing too much D&D back in the day, but that is why I believe the titles shouldn't be account wide. If one of my characters works to be a town drunk, my other characters shouldn't be able to walk around pretending to be the town drunk as well. They didn't earn it, so they don't deserve it.

That may just be me though.

I play D&D myself and I know what you mean about the RP aspect. Thing is, we have that with the whole Luxon/Kurzick thing. If you were a devout Kurzick, you'd have nothing to do with those scummy Luxons. Similarly if one character had the personality of being amazingly lucky, why should that apply to all characters on the account? Maybe you've made a sin who's not a treasure hunter but prefers to steal treasure therefore maxing treasure hunter on another character wouldn't fit?

Sorry but there's a few examples already where this idea is broken. That can't and won't be changed. I remember the days when you had to save all your lockpicks for one character, only one could identify golds as you wanted the title on that one character... Drunkard is similarly a pain, ESPECIALLY without counters when you use alcohol. A guildie of mine is now regretting doing drunkard on her warrior now she wants GWAMM on her mesmer. Why should her work go to waste?

Also, you don't have to display the title on a character. They could just have a really drunken relative :P

Lanier · Dec 22, 2010, 03:24 PM // 15:24

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Originally Posted by Bellatrixa

Sorry but there's a few examples already where this idea is broken. That can't and won't be changed. I remember the days when you had to save all your lockpicks for one character, only one could identify golds as you wanted the title on that one character... Drunkard is similarly a pain, ESPECIALLY without counters when you use alcohol. A guildie of mine is now regretting doing drunkard on her warrior now she wants GWAMM on her mesmer. Why should her work go to waste?

I know what you mean. I used a lot of drunkard, sweet, and party points on my mesmer and now my paragon is my main.

Morphy · Dec 22, 2010, 05:19 PM // 17:19

/signed

Lore is no excuse for ridiculous amounts of grind that has to be done on all characters.

newbie_of_doom · Dec 22, 2010, 08:46 PM // 20:46

I have always been in favor of this.

Therefore,

/signed

Showtime · Dec 24, 2010, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by Aba

Not Signed.
" Lets change the game and make it easier....
cause the games older and im lazy".
Sums it up

LMAO

Oh yeah that grinding makes you a hard worker.

Most of us dont even enjoy the game anymore cuz of the grind. Thats not being lazy, that's being bored by doing repetitions any monkey could do.

Again, I'd like to play my other characters, but have to max titles. I'm only willing to grind/waste that amount of time on one character.

Swingline · Dec 26, 2010, 07:50 AM // 07:50

Its too late to start changing titles now. Many people would rage when they logged on and found their gwamm gone. It should have been done a long time ago but with it being so close to gw2 launch it would be pointless.

_Aphotic_ · Dec 28, 2010, 03:20 AM // 03:20

- Drunkard (sure, why not?)
- Sweet Tooth (okay)
- Treasure Hunter (Yes)
- Wisdom (Um, I thought this was already account based?)

The rest:
- Lightbringer
- Sunspear
- Asura
- Deldrimor
- Ebon Vanguard
- Norn

Under the following circumstances:
They increase the difficulty of obtaining points for these titles/increase the requirement for max.
Why?
Because you'll have overpowered PvE skills EVERYWHERE.
IF they decide to make them account-based, make maxing these titles as hard as it is to obtain max Kurzick/Luxon (as Kurzick and Luxon max takes VERY LONG to do, and their title track corresponds to PvE skills as well)

Otherwise,
do NOT change those listed above.

PvE will become a COMPLETE JOKE to everyone:
-1/3 damage reduction as opposed to 1/4 reduction right off the bat for Paragons.
-Level 20 Ebon Vanguard sins against level 10's in PvE? Right off the bat? Yes.
-5 second SoL's for Monks from the beginning? Well, it's already over powered, but 5 seconds of pure Party Invincibility essentially for ANY newb monk.
-Spam Ebon Vanguard Wards on recharge? Overpowered warding? (+10 armor-ignoring damage almost 100% of the time? or +24 armor) ;P

PvE is already over-balanced (this coming from a primarily PvE player, occasionally play PvP), and its PvE skills are laughed at for already being overpowered.

Practically giving the PvE skills at max power to every player in the game? I will definitely not agree with.

Chasing Squirrels · Dec 28, 2010, 05:18 AM // 05:18

/signed
It is a pain especially with the eotn titles where most of the builds incorporate these skills and having to get a high rank to fully benefit from them

especially when you can only play a couple hours each week

These titles aren't difficult at all they just require an investment of time
also i do not understand why sweet/drunk/party are not account based

The way it is now i kind of feel i am being punished for playing all of my characters somewhat evenly.
I can guarantee you that the majority of players who are going for GWAMM play a single character because of this.

Swingline · Dec 28, 2010, 06:43 AM // 06:43

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Originally Posted by _Aphotic_

- Drunkard (sure, why not?)
- Sweet Tooth (okay)
- Treasure Hunter (Yes)
- Wisdom (Um, I thought this was already account based?)

The rest:
- Lightbringer
- Sunspear
- Asura
- Deldrimor
- Ebon Vanguard
- Norn

Under the following circumstances:
They increase the difficulty of obtaining points for these titles/increase the requirement for max.
Why?
Because you'll have overpowered PvE skills EVERYWHERE.
IF they decide to make them account-based, make maxing these titles as hard as it is to obtain max Kurzick/Luxon (as Kurzick and Luxon max takes VERY LONG to do, and their title track corresponds to PvE skills as well)

Otherwise,
do NOT change those listed above.

PvE will become a COMPLETE JOKE to everyone:
-1/3 damage reduction as opposed to 1/4 reduction right off the bat for Paragons.
-Level 20 Ebon Vanguard sins against level 10's in PvE? Right off the bat? Yes.
-5 second SoL's for Monks from the beginning? Well, it's already over powered, but 5 seconds of pure Party Invincibility essentially for ANY newb monk.
-Spam Ebon Vanguard Wards on recharge? Overpowered warding? (+10 armor-ignoring damage almost 100% of the time? or +24 armor) ;P

PvE is already over-balanced (this coming from a primarily PvE player, occasionally play PvP), and its PvE skills are laughed at for already being overpowered.

Practically giving the PvE skills at max power to every player in the game? I will definitely not agree with.

I agree with making the rep titles as long as lux and kurz but like I said its far too late to do so since gw2 will be out in 2011 most likely. Maxing those titles would take a very long time at ten million each.

P.S. treasure hunter title is already account wide.

Patrisha MacFarlane · Jan 06, 2011, 07:38 AM // 07:38

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Originally Posted by SpyderArachnid

My reasoning is because probably I'm a PvE player who gets involved in my characters. I don't know if others do it, or if I'm the only one.

Basically, I see my characters are different people. I don't play the game as just myself, I play a different experience on each character I play. They all have their unique personalities and such. So when one works hard on something, I believe that person should be rewarded. Not my other characters, as they didn't do anything to achieve that title.

I don't see it as "it is all me anyways, it doesn't matter who I play on". I see it as "they are each their own individual. They earn their own things". Might be the RPer in me from playing too much D&D back in the day, but that is why I believe the titles shouldn't be account wide. If one of my characters works to be a town drunk, my other characters shouldn't be able to walk around pretending to be the town drunk as well. They didn't earn it, so they don't deserve it.

That may just be me though.

I totally relate to this post, and no you're not the only one.

However... last year I would have agreed, and on most levels I still do, but now we're getting close to GW2, within perhaps a year, and my time is limited and becoming more so. So that means I gotta face reality, if I wanna max as many of these as possible I gotta /sign for the help.

Granted my situation is my own fault. I did not care one whit about titles (except for those that made skills more effective) until HoM Calc came out, so I didn't mess with them. Now I've been rail-roaded into caring, like everyone else has who didn't care about them before. Now I have to grind in a game that promised no grinding in 2005 and broke that promise just a short time later.

Asia Skyly · Jan 06, 2011, 07:22 PM // 19:22

The grand daddy of them of all, for me, is the skill title!! I have a character of each class and NO INTEREST in getting fast casting elites on my warrior. None! On my mesmer, most definitely, but on my warrior? Heck no!

Unify the skill Hunting title!

Dewshine Wildclaw · Jan 08, 2011, 09:52 PM // 21:52

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Originally Posted by Swingline

Its too late to start changing titles now. Many people would rage when they logged on and found their gwamm gone.

gwamm wont disappear because more titles become account wide, if a larger amount of titles suddenly become account wide more likely they log in and have a new gwamm.

now... lucky/unlucky, treasure hunter, wisdom, luxon/kurzick and all the pvp titles? are already account wide so no need to talk about those right.

I think Im a bit indifferent to most of the others... I wouldn't vote for it, most of the remaining character titles doesn't seem worth making account wide, others seem kinda wrong to make account wide... but should they implement it sometime... well I don't think I would complain.

Rivix · Jan 08, 2011, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Hell yes. For a studio that doesn't like grind based games and claim they are no fun, there sure is a hell of a lot in GuildWars.